Game of Thrones Legacy is Finish Today

Really highlights how D&D, being stupid, are wholly incapable of writing intelligent characters. I mean, compare something like Tyrion’s scheming in season 2 to figure out who was spying for Cersei, which was great, to basically his entire story arc after fleeing King’s Landing (and especially after meeting Dany).

He’s barely had a character arc of his own since then, and exists to give advice, and that advice is based entirely on “what end result do we, Benioff and Weiss, want to have happen”, and not “what would Tyrion consider to be the wisest course of action”. Because that would require them to actually think hard about what would be strategically sound, in-universe. And they just don’t care.

Well she was prepared to dodge this time. When they did hit the one dragon, it was flying in a straight line and was not ready to dodge any shots. All the shots taken at her, when she was ready, missed. So its not ttthhhhhaaaaattttt unbelievable.

(Playing devils advocate, but really think its dumb that they started out shooting 3/3 then missed the rest fired after that.)

The first part is a bit harsh. Game of Thrones has had some very well written characters. Season 7 and especially 8 have suffered from bad writing, but I wouldn’t say that’s representative of the 123movies in its entirety. It’s not uncommon for long-running TV series to trip and fall in the home stretch. Think of the X-Files, Lost, NYPD Blue – the list goes on.

Showrunners and their writers spend 5, 6, 7 years crafting a great story, then suddenly they’re left with a handful of 1-hour episodes in which to wrap up 7 years’ worth of story-telling. That’s no easy task. If I had to guess, the writers of GoT are probably tired, out of ideas, time, or some combination of all three.

Very few shows in the last 20 years have maintained a high standard of writing throughout their runs and stick the landing for the finale: the Wire, Sopranos, Deadwood, maybe one or two others.

I’m fully aware that this show has had well-written characters, and that the shittiness of recent seasons isn’t representative of the entire show. What you’re choosing to ignore about what I said is that the reason the characters used to be well-written was because they were faithfully adapting what GRRM had already written, and the reason the writing has become so stupid is because Benioff & Weiss have had to actually come up with their own plot points and their own character arcs, without any hand-holding from the books.

Benioff & Weiss are not the primary reason this show used to be so good, because they were just taking GRRM’s framework, and transferring it to the screen, with little original creative input of their own. You admit season 7 and 8 have bad writing. This demonstrates it clearly: B&W, when they have to come up with their own original material, with no one else to lean on, are terrible writers incapable of sensible characterization and logical plot progression.

That is a crisis of their own making. Sure the show has a massive budget, but its been a cash cow for HBO for many years. The awards it wins and buzz around the show are incredible advertising for the network. From what I’ve read and the sense I get, the network was not pushing them out the door. D&D wanted to cash out and grab a huge paycheck on their next project. Who wouldn’t want the creators of Game of Thrones to make a show on their network!?

And the next project they were already lining up in 2017 just sounds atrocious and got a lot of flak when it was announced: “‘Confederate’ chronicles the events leading to the Third American Civil War. The series takes place in an alternate timeline, where the southern states have successfully seceded from the Union, giving rise to a nation in which slavery remains legal and has evolved into a modern institution. The story follows a broad swath of characters on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Demilitarized Zone – freedom fighters, slave hunters, politicians, abolitionists, journalists, the executives of a slave-holding conglomerate and the families of people in their thrall.”
https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/hbo-confederate-tv-show-game-of-thrones-creators-david-benioff-db-weiss-1202500538/

This abomination of a final season is best captured by the anecdotes about the props people hand-carving bowls and spoons for the Winterfell scenes in the first two episodes; as if the audience was going to tell the difference between some stupid hand-carved cutlery and something you could have bought off alibaba for peanuts, while expecting them to completely overlook your writer’s incompetent and disgraceful storytelling. I have a hard time understanding how this could happen.

Do Dipshit and Dumbfuck have nothing but contempt for their own audience? Is it just pure unfiltered arrogance? Does anyone else find it weird that after every episode, the audience is subjected to having to listen to these two jackasses explain the episode back to them and what the actions of the characters mean? What other television show does this?

Wouldn’t you, as a producer, be self-aware enough to realize that if upon conclusion of the episode you have to explain what just happened back to your audience that you’ve probably got some issues with your scripts? How far up your own ass do you have to place your head to come to the conclusion that that is what your audience needs or wants?

It sounds like D&D may be guilty of not planning a good exit. I definitely agree the writing feels as though they rushed to finish the series, for whatever reason that may be. By contrast, one of the greatest series in the history of television, the Wire, had a terrific final season precisely because it was David Simon’s plan from the beginning to end the series after 5 seasons.

In all fairness, the outrage over Confederate – a series which no human being has even watched – is utterly ridiculous. It’s a side-effect of modern news feed culture, where viewers are fed a daily stream of content designed to outrage them or harden their already held prejudices. Where is the widespread outrage over the Man in the High Castle for promoting “Nazi fan fiction”?

In other news, it seems fans aren’t the only ones disappointed with the direction Game of Thrones has taken as of late. Conleth Hill did an interview where he talks about his disappointment with Varys’ relegation to the “periphery”. Interesting stuff:
https://globalnews.ca/news/5274660/game-of-thrones-lord-varys-interview/

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